Origins of Albanian language and ethnos

[Bij]

No, I am not Albanian. Unless there's something I dont know????????? I've just studied a bit of Italian.

I don't believe Macedonian and Italian are linguistically linked, I just think there are a few words (latin) we've borrowed from them.

and, like i said in my earlier post, they've named their fruit salad after us

[George S.]

on aspect of latin apparentlyfrom old eutruscan is derived from ancient macedonian.
cest stoi kaj trust latin
ce stoi vo trust macedonian
everything stays in trust english
starri decisis latin
star reshenie macedonian
old decision english

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Astrit

SOM, a more proper way to say father in Albanian would be Ate

Ata also means father in Turkish, in addition to Baba. Same as Albanian. But the first word is interesting because it appears very close to European words such as Tato in Macedonian, Dad in English, etc. Not sure if they are related, but possible, if they are, then there is a case to support that Albanian used it before the Turks.

Astrit, the earliest Albanian writings are from the 15th century, what word did they use for father in that time?

Beseda would at first would seem closer to Biseda in Albanian which simply means conversation but the definitions do not match up.

I still think both come from Slavonic influence. In Church Slavonic Beseda can mean 'conversation, word, talk', while Besa in Albanian means 'pledge, word of honour', can you honestly say they that these words are not related? They seem pretty close to me.

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[Big Bad Sven]

I have that book True Macedonian and its a good read, makes me chuckle a few times of the crazy stories the shiptars have come up with through out the years.

You should post up scans of pages 73-76 and page 81 - the talk about the "Ur-Albanian" theory It talks about how many western historians thought Albanians came from the Caucasus, and even how many albanian thought so as well

Its a fantastic book.

[Pelister]

Interesting comments about the Persian origins of the modern Albanians as described by Evliya Celebi.

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The animosities have been carved deep. Although this is not a war about "ancient ethnic hatreds," there is nevertheless a long history of antagonism between the Serbs and the Kosovar Albanians. The competing national myths -- with the Serbs claiming Kosovo as the birthplace of medieval Serbia and the Albanians claiming they are descended from the ancient Illyrians -- are trotted out by each group to bludgeon the other.

Kosovo's Next Masters by Chris Hedges, Foreign Affairs Volume 78 No.3

http://www.partitionconflicts.com/pa...s_hedges_2.pdf

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