The Macedonian Sun & (Original) Flag

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

BTW, it's a sun/star symbol, possibly the earliest and most universal symbol ever depicted by humankind...it's origins probably outdate even human settlement in the Balkans...

Exactly.

The "fuss" started when a historical symbol was used for political purposes against a neighboring country.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Exactly.

The "fuss" started when a historical symbol was used for political purposes against a neighboring country.

...against a neighbouring country...WTF?

[Voltron]

Neigboring Country aka as Greece or Macedonia depending on which camp you come from. Thought that would of been obvious..

[julie]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Exactly.

The "fuss" started when a historical symbol was used for political purposes against a neighboring country.

why the fuck are you still here with that comment you little Greek piece of shit

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Neigboring Country aka as Greece or Macedonia depending on which camp you come from. Thought that would of been obvious..

..."obvious", what am I...a fuckin' mind reader...in an earlier post you said it was debatable that it was a Macedonian royal symbol at all...

It's a sun depiction that can be found on the earliest cave drawings known to mankind, thousands of miles away from the Balkans you banana...

Only one party in this dispute has claimed the SUN exclusively as their own.

[Voltron]

The only reason why I included both parties in my post is because Greece often times use it as an argument as well. Just trying to be objective.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Voltron

The only reason why I included both parties in my post is because Greece often times use it as an argument as well. Just trying to be objective.

What is your point...have you got one...???

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

What is your point...have you got one...???

Man you make simple dialoge difficult.
The point is that its not a royal symbol first of all, secondly it was used in a political manner against Greece (in my view) which subsequently sparked a viscous chain of events that is holding both countrys hostage to some romantic idea of who were the Macedonians.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Man you make simple dialoge difficult.
The point is that its not a royal symbol first of all, secondly it was used in a political manner against Greece (in my view) which subsequently sparked a viscous chain of events that is holding both countrys hostage to some romantic idea of who were the Macedonians.

If it's not a royal symbol then what is it...if it's a simple depiction of the sun (or the planet Venus, as is most ancient Sun symbolism) who owns it...surely the modern 'greeks' don't have exclusive rights to it, any more than any race of people who live under the influence of the sun and its cycles...but you're the ones who've monoplized it through an act of political bribery and intimidation.

[Perun]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Man you make simple dialoge difficult.
The point is that its not a royal symbol first of all, secondly it was used in a political manner against Greece (in my view) which subsequently sparked a viscous chain of events that is holding both countrys hostage to some romantic idea of who were the Macedonians.

It's interesting how everything we do (saying obvious things like the holocaust in Egej, our history and heritage, out name, RoM, etc.) is taken as a provocation.

But whatever Greece launches (bullshit customs officers, nazi attitudes, not recognizing the name of a country which already exists 20 years as autonomous, etc.) is just all in a day's work.

Think about it.