United Macedonia Diaspora

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

BBC Macedonian Service is not anti-Macedonian and pro-Greek.

What racist reports did the BBC Macedonian Service publish?

Numerous, times they use the sickening term "fyROM" which UMD finds acceptable .. Interim Agreement



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[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

BBC Macedonian Service is not anti-Macedonian and pro-Greek.

What racist reports did the BBC Macedonian Service publish?

Meto, even you ran your own campaign against the BBC...short memories.

[George S.]

How can anyone accept a nonsensical name like fyrom,but greece didn't stop there they asked for a prefix on the name The Fyrom.Can you beleive it macedonia was sitting under the letter"T" in the UN.The umd has a lot to answer for the damage to our name.Go lick some grks arse.

[Frank]

Meto, even you ran your own campaign against the BBC...short memories.

He is too young to know better but we all remember.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Meto, even you ran your own campaign against the BBC...short memories.

UMD, confuses even themselves to the point they forget what they support and what they don't. The more they post the more of a joke the organization becomes .. sit on the fence and hope to hell you don't fall off one day.

UMD is an NGO or MORE LIKE A POLITICAL PARTY? BROKEN PROMISES AND ON-GOING ERRORS

[BigMak]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

BBC Macedonian Service is not anti-Macedonian and pro-Greek.

What racist reports did the BBC Macedonian Service publish?

Who was responsible for the initial facebook flooding of this campaign?

It is disgustingly obvious the lack of knowledge inside UMD and the way the organisation has supported the BBC in this way, Its bordering treasonous if you are sighing this petition. For numerous years I have contacting both the BBC and BBC Macedonian to try and rectify numerous articles written.

BBC without a doubt has single hand-idly been the sole train of the Slavo Macedonian theory and have fyromised us for the world. They are responsible for bringing this to the world and misinforming the naive.

BBC Macedonian is no different than A1.

[BigMak]

2001 response from Mark Brayne, News and Current Affairs Editor, European Region, BBC World Service, It made no utter difference and the term is openly still used

BBC Directive on the use of the term "Slav"

Mark Brayne, May 04, 2001

Dear all - after giving this some thought in the European region, and after conversations with several of you, we would like to suggest that as BBC we should seek to avoid wherever possible referring to ethnic Macedonians in Macedonia as "Slav Macedonians" or "Macedonian Slavs" or e.g. "the majority Slav population of Macedonia."

This is a matter of considerable sensivity among Macedonians themselves, who argue that the term denies them their distinct Macedonian ethnic identity. BBC Producer Guidelines (p 108 section 9.4.2) have some useful advice on this: "A good rule of thumb is to ask how people describe themselves: there have to be good reasons for calling them something different."

At the WS we've previously justified the term as journalistically useful to differentiate the ethnic Macedonians of Macedonia from the ethnic Albanians there. But given how raw this story now is - and indeed the BBC's profile in covering it (BBC World and OnLine, not to speak of BBC in Macedonian and Albanian, are followed closely by all parties to this conflict) - and given that we can usually get round such usage without compromising editorial clarity, we would now suggest that all BBC reporters, writers and programme-makers seek wherever possible to find alternative ways of referring to the Macedonians.

A couple of comparisons which might help explain why this makes sense: we don't for example refer to Slav Serbs, or Slav Croats. Also, we now seek to refer to the formerly "gypsy" populations of East and Central Europe as "Roma" - in line with their own usage.

"Ethnic Macedonians", "the majority Macedonian population", best of all just "Macedonians" are all fine - corresponding to "ethnic Albanians", "the minority Albanian population" or just "Albanians" once it's clear in the context that we're talking about ethnic groups within the state of Macedonia.

Over to you to pass this on appropriately - and if you need any more words, or clarification, or indeed if anyone disagrees with this, please let me know.

Thanks.

Mark
_____________________
Mark Brayne
News and Current Affairs Editor, European Region
BBC World Service
Room 626SE, Bush House, London WC2B 4PH
Tel: 020 755 72375
Fax 020 7497 2776

[indigen]

Originally Posted by BigMak

2001 response from Mark Brayne, News and Current Affairs Editor, European Region, BBC World Service, It made no utter difference and the term is openly still used

BBC Directive on the use of the term "Slav"

Mark Brayne, May 04, 2001

Dear all - after giving this some thought in the European region, and after conversations with several of you, we would like to suggest that as BBC we should seek to avoid wherever possible referring to ethnic Macedonians in Macedonia as "Slav Macedonians" or "Macedonian Slavs" or e.g. "the majority Slav population of Macedonia."

This is a matter of considerable sensivity among Macedonians themselves, who argue that the term denies them their distinct Macedonian ethnic identity. BBC Producer Guidelines (p 108 section 9.4.2) have some useful advice on this: "A good rule of thumb is to ask how people describe themselves: there have to be good reasons for calling them something different."

At the WS we've previously justified the term as journalistically useful to differentiate the ethnic Macedonians of Macedonia from the ethnic Albanians there. But given how raw this story now is - and indeed the BBC's profile in covering it (BBC World and OnLine, not to speak of BBC in Macedonian and Albanian, are followed closely by all parties to this conflict) - and given that we can usually get round such usage without compromising editorial clarity, we would now suggest that all BBC reporters, writers and programme-makers seek wherever possible to find alternative ways of referring to the Macedonians.

A couple of comparisons which might help explain why this makes sense: we don't for example refer to Slav Serbs, or Slav Croats. Also, we now seek to refer to the formerly "gypsy" populations of East and Central Europe as "Roma" - in line with their own usage.

"Ethnic Macedonians", "the majority Macedonian population", best of all just "Macedonians" are all fine - corresponding to "ethnic Albanians", "the minority Albanian population" or just "Albanians" once it's clear in the context that we're talking about ethnic groups within the state of Macedonia.

Over to you to pass this on appropriately - and if you need any more words, or clarification, or indeed if anyone disagrees with this, please let me know.

Thanks.

Mark
_____________________
Mark Brayne
News and Current Affairs Editor, European Region
BBC World Service
Room 626SE, Bush House, London WC2B 4PH
Tel: 020 755 72375
Fax 020 7497 2776

The whole Western IMPERIALIST political machinery (of which BBC, RFE and myriad other "human rights", "Civil Society" and "Aid and Development" agencies and structure are part and parcel of) TEMPORARILY (until next deconstruction phase comes into action) eased up on the virulent anti-Macedonian propaganda ONCE THEY ACHIEVED their stated objective/s - DECONSTRUCTION of the Macedonian state into a state of communities, i.e. non-Macedonian "multi-ethnic Ramkovist state"!

IMO, "UMD" is openly showing (yet again) its political allegiance and subservience to foreign anti-Macedonian interests. This is done in good VASSAL company, too, with the likes of Kiro Gligorov and Antonio Miloshoski asking for the same thing! Birds of a (TREASONOUS) feather stick together!

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by bigmak

bbc macedonian is no different than a1.

bingo bigmak!

[Pelister]

A number of question for you Meto.

What steps has UMD taken to end the negotiations, or does UMD still push the line that the negotiations are necessary?

Does UMD realize that our admission to the United Nations by our chosen name has not been 'blocked' by anyone?

What has UMD been doing in terms of getting the Gruevski government to admit our name to the United Nations?