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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15658

    In Yugo times? Who would have thought!
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Makedonska_Kafana
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 2642

      Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
      Where did he go to school?
      Exactly, what planet was that school on?
      http://www.makedonskakafana.com

      Macedonia for the Macedonians

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      • momce
        Banned
        • Oct 2012
        • 426

        Greekoids never taught Macedonian history in their schools either until it became a political issue, and then they only teaching selective parts of it namely superficial Hellenistic periods and the "greek macedonian" pseudo-culture their propaganda organs created after the Balkan Wars or what suits their agenda. Donski is great for clarifying alot of errors.
        Last edited by momce; 02-03-2013, 10:04 AM.

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          What greek history there ain't any it's all stolen from us but with a twist of propaganda.We arae not macedonis they the greeks are.They deliberately concentrate on falsifying history
          that their claim is 4000 years of greek history is absurd to say the least.The greeks were colonisers & the greek peninsula was inhabited by them for less than 3000.The existence of other people besides greeks on the greek peninsula is only too obvious in greek or other non greek writings.The span of a macedonian tribe pelasgian is all over the place.The fact that Macedonians were allready in macedonia for many milenia prior to the greeks coming.THe fact that there were distinct differences is a big point.Fact prior to 1913 the greeks never occupied the aegean part before(why did they call it after 1913 the occupied territories)?
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • momce
            Banned
            • Oct 2012
            • 426

            You are right the greeks have no real historical presence in Macedonia.

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            • Stojacanec
              Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 809

              Originally posted by Nexus View Post
              An old friend of my father said to me that in his school they didn't even mentioned Alexander the Great and ancient Macedonians.
              Since ancient times the greeks didn't want to mention Alexander either.

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              • momce
                Banned
                • Oct 2012
                • 426

                Leave it to the greek mental diarhhea. Every geek regurgitates whatever he is taught at geek school. What drives these geeks is a real paranoia and inferiority complex.
                Last edited by momce; 02-26-2013, 01:54 AM.

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                • momce
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 426

                  Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
                  He's NOT a Greek
                  Oh man the modern greeks are the last people who should be questioning peoples ethnic identity. But hey no one else exists for them. Typical fascist parasites. Someone should take the parasite greece to the executioner. Wow so many things they dont teach you at geek school. I am convinced the geeks are pure parasites. They remind me of bacteria colonies actually.
                  Last edited by momce; 02-28-2013, 02:42 PM.

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                  • momce
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 426

                    greece is direct evolution from the karayioz theatre

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                    • Carlin
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 3332

                      I think it's important to repeat certain truths Ad nauseam.

                      Here is a list/summary of ethnographic and historical facts that most (not all) modern Greeks find 'disturbing'.

                      1) David George Hogarth (page 153, "The Nearer East"):

                      "Boeotia, with Euboea, is largely in the hands of Toskh Albanians; Thessaly in those of Vlachs and Anatolians, introduced from Konia about the tenth century; and Macedonia, north of Vistritza, in those of a blend of Slav with Bulgar mixed further with Vlach and Anatolian elements."

                      2) Benjamin of Tudela describes the Vlachs of Boeotia sweeping down "from the mountains to despoil and ravage the land of Greece".

                      - Curta 2005, pg. 357.
                      - The Itinerary of Benjamin of Tudela, pg. 21.

                      3) The London Quarterly Review, published in April 1895 and July 1895:
                      "The Wallachians (Vlachs) ... are numerous in the Peloponnesus."

                      4) "Days in Attica", Ellen Sophia Bosanquet (published in 1914): According to this source, the Vlachs lived in a mountain range in the Athens area (Hymettus).

                      5) 'Great Wallachia' was a name for a medieval Vlach state which included the entire region of Thessaly and adjacent areas (existed between the twelfth and the thirteenth century). Epirus was likewise known as 'Upper Wallachia' (including Pindus mountains), while Aetolia-Akarnania and nearby territories were called 'Little Wallachia'. Achaia was known as 'Lower Wallachia'. This is according to medieval sources.

                      6) Source: Anonymi Descriptio Europae orientalis. Imperium Constantinopolitanum, Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Ruthenia, Ungaria, Polonia, Bohemia. Anno MCCCVIII exarata. Cracoviae, 1916: As per the anonymous traveler of Eastern Europe from the XIV century, it is stated that Vlachs (whom the author calls "Blasi"), are a numerous people living between Macedonia, Achaia and Salonika.

                      7) Source: Johann Thunmann, Untersuchungen uber die Geschichte der ostlichen europaischen Volker, I. Leipzig, 1774: The author states (estimates) that Vlachs represent half the population of Thrace, and three quarters of inhabitants of Thessaly and Macedonia.

                      8) Testimonies from Cousinery, Pouqeville, Heuzey, Tertsetis, Frantzis, and Deligiannis confirm that the populations of Epirus, Aetolia, Akarnania, and Western Macedonia were bilingual.

                      9) A Czech author by the name of Jirecek found a Peloponnesian tribe as a 'Latin'-speaking populace that eventually became Greek-speaking (Gesty Pobulgarsky, Praze 1888 p. 220 and Das Furstentum Bulgariens 1891 p. 119).

                      10) The French 19th century traveler Cousinery makes mention of Vlach-speakers in the market of the city of Argos (Argolis, Peloponnese) during his travel in Morea/Peloponnese shortly after the War of Independence, 1821. He specifically makes mention of the fact that these men and women spoke a Latinate language, similar to the Vlachs he met in Macedonia. These Vlachs told him that they were pastoral nomads with settlements in the surrounding mountains.

                      [Cousinery H.E.M., Voyage dans de la Macédoine, Book I. Paris, 1831]

                      11) In 1605 AD, half of Thesaloniki's Christian population was of Vlach origin. (Can provide source(s) upon request).

                      12) Constantine Buhayer (University of Westminster, London): Many of the Greeks of Crimea were Ellino-Vlachi.

                      13) The Making of the Cretan Landscape, By Oliver Rackham, Jennifer Moody. Page 88: "Cretans are descended, to varying degrees, from Albanians, Argives, French, Armenians, Bulgars, Germans, Hebrews, Spaniards, Venetians, Turks, Tartars, Negroes, Pelasgians, Dorians, etc ... , and Vlachs."

                      14) According to anthropologist Roger Just, most of the 19th century Greeks did not even speak Greek by preference, but rather Slavonic, Albanian, and Vlach dialects.

                      15) In 578, 10000 Armenians moved to Cyprus for colonization, given that the island was almost deserted at this time. ("History of the Greek nation," ed "Publishing Athens", Vol. H, pp. 183-4).

                      "Thus", says Evagrius, "land, which had been previously untilled, was everywhere restored to cultivation. Numerous armies also were raised from among them that fought resolutely and courageously against the other nations. At the same time every household was completely furnished with domestics, on account of the easy rate at which slaves were procured". (Quote from P. Charanis, see 16. below for more info)

                      16) Further deportations and settlement of Armenians all over the Byzantine empire, especially in Thrace, are attested for the eighth century. During the reign of Constantine V Copronymus, thousands of Armenians and monophysitic Syrians were gathered by the Byzantine armies during their raids in the regions of Germanicea (Marash), Melitene and Erzeroum and were settled in Thrace.

                      During the reign of Leo IV, a Byzantine raiding expedition into Cilicia and Syria resulted in the seizure of thousands of natives, 150,000 according to one authority, who were settled in Thrace. These, however, were chiefly Syrian Jacobites, though some Armenians may have also been included. Many of the Armenians settled in Thrace were seized by the Bulgar Krum (803--814) and carried away, but most of them eventually returned. According to tradition, the parents of the future Emperor Basil I and Basil himself were included among these prisoners, but there is reason to doubt the historical accuracy of this tradition.

                      The diverse ethnic groups established in Thrace were reinforced by later arrivals. In the tenth century, during the reign of John Tzimiskes, a considerable number of Paulicians were removed from the frontier regions of the east and were settled in Thrace, more exactly in the country around Phillippopolis. These Paulicians were most probably predominantly Armenians.

                      A little later, perhaps in 988, Armenians were settled also in Macedonia. They were brought there from the eastern provinces of the empire by Basil II in order to serve as a bulwark against the Bulgarians and also to help increase the prosperity of the country.

                      Meanwhile, other Armenians had been settled elsewhere in the empire. Nicephorus I used Armenians, among others, in his resettlement of Sparta at the beginning of the ninth century. Some time earlier, about 792, an unsuccessful revolt among the Armeniacs, a corps which was no doubt predominantly Armenian, led to the settlement of a thousand of them in Sicily and other islands.

                      In 885 Nicephorus Phocas, grandfather of the tenth century Emperor by the same name, settled a multitude of Armenians in Calabria.

                      Armenians, among others, were also settled in Crete following the recovery of that island in 961 by Nicephorus Phocas, the future Emperor. Two Armenian military settlements are known to have existed in western Asia Minor in the tenth century. These were the settlements at Prine and Platanion, which, according to Constantine Porphyrogenitus, furnished a number of Armenian troops in the expedition against Crete during the reign of Leo VI. Armenians, settled in the Thracesian theme, also participated in the expedition against Crete in 949.

                      [The Armenians in the Byzantine Empire, by Peter Charanis]

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                      • Eden
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 16

                        Nice Carlin, and there are still people in this world who claim pure ancestry and genetic, haha . By the way what you give us here is gold, but the estimations here are not very representative of the truth, i don't say this is misinformation, but the westerners here give us a picture of Macedonia (and Thrace btw) wich is not close to the reality.

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                        • momce
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 426

                          most greekoids dont even know this stuff

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                          • Carlin
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3332

                            Originally posted by momce View Post
                            most greekoids dont even know this stuff
                            Shall I continue?

                            1) Harvard Historical Studies, Volume 88.

                            Page 122: The Vlachs were forcibly moved from Vizye to the Asiatic coast of the Bosphorus. The transfer of the Vlach population took place in winter and thus gravely disrupted their cattle-based economy.

                            2) Asia Minor Slavs.

                            Slavs (Slavic-speakers) represented a rather significant population, numerically speaking, all over Asia Minor in the Middle Ages. Modern Pontian Greeks are to some extent of Slavic extraction (although I'm quite sure they would deny it vehemently).



                            Thomas the Slav


                            During Thomas' time Asia Minor was a multi-ethnic region largely inhabited by Slavs, Armenians, Georgians, Syrians, Persians, Arabs and numerous other tribes and peoples.

                            Thomas's rebellion was one of the largest in the Byzantine Empire's history, but its precise circumstances are unclear due to competing historical narratives, including claims fabricated by Michael that have distorted accounts of the revolt. Consequently, various motives and driving forces have been attributed to it. As summarized by the Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium, "Thomas's revolt has been variously attributed to a reaction against Iconoclasm, a social revolution and popular uprising, a revolt by the empire's non-Greek ethnic groups, Thomas's personal ambitions, and his desire to avenge Leo V."[1] Its effects on the military position of the empire are also disputed.

                            I have highlighted and underlined the part where it says how the revolt was orchestrated by the empire's (so-called) non-Greek ethnic groups. The last part of this sentence is a forgery of highest importance as it paints a mythological picture of everyone taking part in the revolt except (and against) the Greeks. This statement is worthless historically speaking.
                            Last edited by Carlin; 03-07-2013, 08:58 PM.

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                            • makedonche
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3242

                              Carlin
                              Please do continue.....altough we may have to change the title of the thread to..."Encyclopedia of greek Lies"
                              On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                              • momce
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 426

                                Interesting. The greeks have managed to control propaganda to such an extent only researchers are aware of these phenomenon.

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