Football Thread!

[Sweet Sixteen]

So, what would you change in their algorithm?

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/pro...ure/index.html

[Bill77]

Originally Posted by Sweet Sixteen

So, what would you change in their algorithm?

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/pro...ure/index.html

I would scrap it all together. You already know my suggestion on how to determine the seeding birth in World Cup or European cup draws. It's by using common sense.

Let's look at how flawed a ranking system is by using the the algorithm, particularly when it's not possible for every team to play every nation equally within a 4 year span. After all, apparently there are more Countries as members in FIFA than there are countries in the United Nations.

Here are some good reading.
Just some key points from the links below showing how flawed the current system is.

"The United States drawing Mexico 0-0 on the road (where they’ve only won once ever) is much, much more impressive than the United States drawing Mexico 1-1 at home. "
Points given are the same if you play home or away.

" A ranking that treats every loss the same is going to be misleading. Argentina losing 1-0 to Bolivia at home is not that same as Argentina losing 1-0 to Brazil on the road."

"A win in a friendly against Spain will earn you under 600 points, which is roughly the same as winning a qualifier against Luxembourg"

"At the moment losing 3-2 to Spain in extra time at a World Cup match is worth 0 points, while needing a late penalty to beat Turks and Caicos Islands in a friendly is worth 132 points."


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/fi...flawed-2013-10


https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...144405289.html

[Alex_MK]

Originally Posted by Bill77

I would scrap it all together. You already know my suggestion on how to determine the seeding birth in World Cup or European cup draws. It's by using common sense.

Let's look at how flawed a ranking system is by using the the algorithm, particularly when it's not possible for every team to play every nation equally within a 4 year span. After all, apparently there are more Countries as members in FIFA than there are countries in the United Nations.

Here are some good reading.
Just some key points from the links below showing how flawed the current system is.

"The United States drawing Mexico 0-0 on the road (where they’ve only won once ever) is much, much more impressive than the United States drawing Mexico 1-1 at home. "
Points given are the same if you play home or away.

" A ranking that treats every loss the same is going to be misleading. Argentina losing 1-0 to Bolivia at home is not that same as Argentina losing 1-0 to Brazil on the road."

"A win in a friendly against Spain will earn you under 600 points, which is roughly the same as winning a qualifier against Luxembourg"

"At the moment losing 3-2 to Spain in extra time at a World Cup match is worth 0 points, while needing a late penalty to beat Turks and Caicos Islands in a friendly is worth 132 points."


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/fi...flawed-2013-10


https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...144405289.html

No one takes the FIFA world rankings seriously and they just serve as a meaningless stat for teams to compare each other.

The only thing that matters is the coefficient points and what pot you are drawn into for qualification campaigns and the world ranking serves no use in this.

I think Haiti last year was ranked something like 30 because they played some amateur teams like Guam but they played some shit European side and lost big time lol

[Momce Makedonce]

The FFA Cup draw came out a few days ago if anybody missed it. Its good to see two Macedonian clubs being involved with Broadmeadow Magic from Newcastle and Stirling Lions from Perth. I go for Western Sydney but I cant help but have a soft spot for the two Maco clubs.



Full draw for the 32 teams
http://www.theffacup.com.au/article/...v1ozi5179foq55

[Macedonian_Nationalist]

Originally Posted by Momce Makedonce

The FFA Cup draw came out a few days ago if anybody missed it. Its good to see two Macedonian clubs being involved with Broadmeadow Magic from Newcastle and Stirling Lions from Perth. I go for Western Sydney but I cant help but have a soft spot for the two Maco clubs.



Full draw for the 32 teams
http://www.theffacup.com.au/article/...v1ozi5179foq55

Good to see Preston Makedonia on top of sate league 1 too. It seems they've finally turned their shit around.

I don't know much about Sterling Lions or Broadmeadow Magic. Do they have large followings like Preston ?

[EgejskaMakedonia]

I don't think their supporter base is very large compared to the likes of Preston and some of the other ex-NSL/A-League clubs, but no doubt the Macedonian community will get behind these two teams during the FFA Cup. Gotta love the sonce in Broadmeadow Magic's logo.

[Volokin]

Greece's run of pure luck comes to an end at the World Cup.

[Momce Makedonce]

Originally Posted by EgejskaMakedonia

I don't think their supporter base is very large compared to the likes of Preston and some of the other ex-NSL/A-League clubs, but no doubt the Macedonian community will get behind these two teams during the FFA Cup. Gotta love the sonce in Broadmeadow Magic's logo.

Love Broadmeadows logo and the name of Stirling`s home ground, Macedonia Park.

[Macedonian_Nationalist]

Originally Posted by EgejskaMakedonia

I don't think their supporter base is very large compared to the likes of Preston and some of the other ex-NSL/A-League clubs, but no doubt the Macedonian community will get behind these two teams during the FFA Cup. Gotta love the sonce in Broadmeadow Magic's logo.

Newcastle game is the first FFA Cup game and is telecast. I wonder how much they'll get to Magic Park. It's a shame Preston was knocked out of qualifying

[Soldier of Macedon]

So, who is taking the world cup? After what Germany did to Brazil, anything is possible. Argentina have been generally consistent but haven't looked overwhelmingly dominant throughout this world cup. It's going to be a tough one, I can't call it. I would like for Argentina to win, but when the Germans get going they're very efficient.