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Old 04-12-2010, 07:51 PM   #21
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Interesting video, i wonder if we see more of this? This could only be the start of it
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:12 PM   #22
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It is interesting. Normally the "others" would shout down anyone supporting Macedonia or Macedonians.

The fact that Grigoris Valiantos speaks with very little interruption is a mirracle in itself.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:20 PM   #23
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He didn't support the Macedonians in that clip, but was giving his analysis on the Greek position and attitudes regarding the dispute.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:31 PM   #24
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Grigoris Valianatos has been outspoken in support of the rights of the Macedonians in Greece many times before.

In fact, less than 2 years ago he was fired from his job as a Media Advisor to PASOK leader Papandreu because he expressed publicly (on TV) his views that Greece should recognise the Republic of Macedonia as the Republic of Macedonia, and recognise the existence of and respect the rights of the Macedonian minority in Greece.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:35 PM   #25
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Cool. I was commenting on the arguments he presented in the clip itself. Which added to his experience in such matters, explains the response of the other participants.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:54 PM   #26
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I should point out that he is also a long time member of the Board and Chairperson of the Greek Helsinki Monitor for Human Rights.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:53 PM   #27
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So what sparked this several minute conversation? That our song is called "Ja imam silata" and they made up that this COULD mean "Ja imam silata da si go čuvam imeto"?

1. They are truly schizophrenic, making up scenarios and then complaining about them.
2. Everybody has the power to keep their name!
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:56 PM   #28
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another thing... where did the image with the Macedonian flag with MACEDONIA written on it, come from?

Was it an official Eurovision trailer clip, or was this made by the Greek TV show?

Does anyone think that this might have been shown on the program to subliminally get greek viewers used to the idea of us being called Macedonia?

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Old 04-14-2010, 09:11 PM   #29
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I would say the flag image in the clip was placed there by televizijasonce.

There is no way the Greeks would do such a thing.
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:56 PM   #30
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Interesting video, i wonder if we see more of this? This could only be the start of it
we will see and hear much more like this.

they are starting to prepare their public for such thing as "total lose", but i am sure they will try hard as never to make a "win-win" with "Severna Makedonija" (About the fact that if we accept ANY rename we are idiots i will not write here / now...)
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