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Old 10-30-2020, 07:32 AM   #21
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Russified Vlachs. Probably from the Wallachia region of Romania.
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Karabakh war appears to be over; Armenia has surrendered

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Angry Armenians storm Parliament

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Crowds besieged the parliament and government offices in Yerevan after a peace deal with Azerbaijan over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh was announced. The terms involve Armenia surrendering some territory it held.

Gunshots could be heard in the streets of the capital as angry protesters stormed the government building, looking for Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan in the early hours of Tuesday, after he revealed the outline of a “painful” agreement to give up land in Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan in exchange for an end to the bloodshed.

Pashinyan’s whereabouts were unknown, at the time, but he was unharmed. Armenia’s parliament was apparently under the control of the protesters, for a time.

The speaker of the Armenian parliament, Ararat Mirzoyan, was reportedly beaten up during the fracas and is in a serious condition.

The armistice that came into effect at midnight on Tuesday local time seeks to end six weeks of fighting over the contested region, which has seen major Azerbaijani advances into the territory held by ethnic Armenians since 1994.
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That is a significant development. Just some background on recent Armenian politics.
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Following the 2018 Armenian Velvet Revolution led by Nikol Pashinyan, a new political alliance rose to prominence known as the My Step Alliance. After the 2018 Armenian parliamentary election, the My Step Alliance gained a ruling majority in the National Assembly.
No excuse for the corruption of the previous government, but these "colour revolution" leaders sure seem keen to negotiate on anything concerning their countries.
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A vote was scheduled in the National Assembly for 1 May; for Pashiniyan to be elected Prime Minister, which required 53 votes, he would have had to win the votes of at least six members of the Republican Party. Pashinyan was the only candidate who was put forward for the vote. However, the Republican Party unanimously voted against Pashinyan – 102 MPs were present, out of which 56 voted against his candidacy and 45 voted for it. One week later, on 8 May, the second vote took place. Pashinyan was elected Prime Minister with 59 votes.
Why does that sound familiar.
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Armenia’s ‘Velvet Revolution’: A masterclass in socialism

Nikol Pashinyan, the opposition leader who rose to iconic stature, has emphasised throughout that this movement is solely an internal, Armenian matter. Although there is certainly a strong element of national pride in the “Velvet Revolution,” there can be no doubt that this is also a masterclass in democratic socialist principles: Healthier institutions, less corruption, fair pay, more regulation, better education, advancement for all.
A shame that many politicians from either side of the spectrum don't fight for both the betterment of society and the preservation of national dignity.
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That is a significant development. Just some background on recent Armenian politics.

No excuse for the corruption of the previous government, but these "colour revolution" leaders sure seem keen to negotiate on anything concerning their countries.

Why does that sound familiar.

A shame that many politicians from either side of the spectrum don't fight for both the betterment of society and the preservation of national dignity.
The only thing I knew about Pashinyan is that he was described as an Armenian nationalist in most international outlets. Very interesting background though.


Nagorno-Karabakh: Villagers burn their homes ahead of peace deal

Residents of Kalbajar district raze properties before deadline for disputed territory is returned to Azerbaijan

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Villagers outside Nagorno-Karabakh set their homes on fire Saturday before fleeing to Armenia ahead of a weekend deadline that will see some disputed territory handed over to Azerbaijan as part of a peace agreement.

Residents of the Kalbajar district in Azerbaijan, which has been controlled by Armenian separatists for decades, began a mass exodus this week after it was announced that Azerbaijan would regain control on Sunday.

Fighting between the separatists backed by Armenian troops and the Azerbaijan army erupted over the breakaway Nagorno-Karabakh region in late September and raged for six weeks.

Armenia said Saturday that 2,317 of its fighters were killed in the clashes, an increase of nearly 1,000 deaths from its previous official toll. Azerbaijan has not revealed its military casualties.

But the Russian president Vladimir Putin said on Friday the number killed in the conflict was higher than 4,000 and that tens of thousands of people had been forced to flee their homes.

In the Kalbajar village of Charektar, on the border with the district of Martakert which will remain under Armenian control, at least six houses were on fire on Saturday morning, with thick plumes of smoke rising over the valley, according to an AFP journalist.

“This is my house, I can’t leave it to the Turks,” as Azerbaijanis are often called by Armenians, one resident said as he threw burning wooden planks and rags soaked in gasoline into an empty house.

“Everybody is going to burn down their house today ... we were given until midnight to leave,” he said.

“We also moved our parents’ graves, the Azerbaijanis will take great pleasure in desecrating our graves. It’s unbearable.”

On Friday at least 10 houses were burned in and around Charektar.

Kalbajar was almost exclusively populated by ethnic Azerbaijanis before they were expelled by Armenians in a 1990s war between the two countries following the break up of the Soviet Union, and a majority of the homes being burned previously belonged to Azerbaijanis.

Armenia’s government controversially subsidised the region’s settlement by ethnic Armenians.

The ex-Soviet rivals agreed to end hostilities earlier this week after previous efforts by Russia, France and the United States to get a ceasefire fell through.

A key part of the peace deal includes Armenia returning Kalbajar and the Aghdam district by 20 November, as well as the Lachin district by 1 December, all of which have been held by Armenians since the devastating 1990s war left 30,000 people dead.

After weeks of intense fighting, the two sides will maintain positions in the territories they currently hold – a significant gain for Azerbaijan, which has reclaimed around 15 to 20% of its lost territory including the key town of Shusha.

Russian peacekeepers began deploying to Nagorno-Karabakh on Wednesday as part of the terms of the accord and took control of a key transport artery connecting Armenia to the disputed territory.

Russian military officials said the mission consisting of nearly 2,000 troops would put in place 16 observation posts in mountainous Nagorno-Karabakh and along the Lachin corridor.

The Azerbaijani president Ilham Aliyev has accused Armenians of destroying “99% of the liberated territory” including hospitals, houses and monuments, adding that he wants Armenia to pay compensation.

Meanwhile in Armenia, anger has been mounting over the prime minister Nikol Pashinyan’s decision to cede swathes of territory.

The former head of Armenia’s national security service, Artur Vanetsyan, was arrested on Saturday on charges of plotting to kill Pashinyan and seize power.

Vanetsyan’s lawyers described the arrest as a “shameful persecution of opponents”.

Thousands of people converged on the streets of the capital Yerevan in demonstrations this week, while protesters stormed and ransacked government buildings, demanding Pashinyan’s resignation.

On Saturday, crowds gathered on Yerevan’s Liberty Square, where they lit candles in memory of soldiers killed in the fighting.

They then marched silently through the streets towards the Matenadaran museum of ancient manuscripts where priests held a requiem service.

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This may lead to some interesting developments. Turkey and the U.S. are supposed to be NATO allies, yet their relationship towards Armenia couldn't be any more different. Armenia, for its part, has relatively good relations with Russia. Despite the relations that have grown between Russia and Turkey over the last few years, there are still a number of areas where they disagree, and lately, Turkey has been making statements with regard to the Ukrainian conflict that have upset Russia. But this announcement by Biden may push Turkey further away from NATO and back towards Russia.
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Joe Biden has become the first United States president to recognise as an act of “genocide” the mass killing of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire during World War I. In a statement on Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day on Saturday, Biden said: “Each year on this day, we remember the lives of all those who died in the Ottoman-era Armenian genocide and recommit ourselves to preventing such an atrocity from ever again occurring. “The American people honor all those Armenians who perished in the genocide that began 106 years ago today,” his statement reads.

Turkey’s Foreign Ministry rejected and denounced Biden’s statement “in the strongest terms”. “This statement of the US, which distorts the historical facts, will never be accepted in the conscience of the Turkish people, and will open a deep wound that undermines our mutual trust and friendship,” the ministry said. “We call on the US president to correct this grave mistake.” Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the US statement was “based solely on populism”, while President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused “third parties” of seeking to politicise the debate. “The politicisation of the discussions that should be held by historians and used as a tool of intervention against our country by third parties has benefited no one,” Erdogan said in a letter to the Armenian patriarch in Istanbul.

In a letter to Biden, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said Armenians around the world welcomed his statement. “I highly appreciate your principled position, which is a powerful step on the way to acknowledging the truth, historical justice, and an invaluable of support for the descendants of the victims of the Armenian Genocide,” Pashinyan wrote. Pashinyan also tweeted that it was “an important day for all Armenians”. Armenian President Armen Sirkissian also said the recognition “opens new prospects for US-Armenian relations”.

The foreign ministry of Azerbaijan, which fought Armenian forces in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region last year, called Biden’s statement “unfortunate” and said it “distorted the historical facts” of what occurred. “Those who politicise the so-called ‘Armenian genocide’ are silent on the massacre of more than 500,000 people by Armenian armed groups at that time,” the ministry said. In a phone call with Erdogan on Saturday, the president of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, called the US statement “a historic mistake”.

Garo Paylan, Armenian MP in Turkish parliament “When Turkey confronts the Armenian genocide, it will no longer matter what other countries or parliaments have to say,” Paylan said. “We need to bring the pain of the Armenian people, to the land where it belongs, to Turkey. We have to face the pain of the Armenian people and we must relieve this pain through justice. The Armenian people are waiting for justice.”

Pelosi, the Democratic House majority leader, said “our hearts are full of joy that President Biden has taken the historic step” of recognising the killings as an act of genocide. “To commemorate this solemn day of remembrance, let us pledge to always stand strong against hatred and violence wherever we see it and recommit to building a future of hope, peace and freedom for all the world’s children,” she said in a statement.
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