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  • Pelister
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2742

    #31
    Is'nt this an instance of Kosovo trying to bully Macedonia ?

    That's how I read it. "You need us" kind of thing.

    Kosovo is a dead state, and given that the Serbs in the north are building their own self-government, it will not last as it is.

    I think the best thing the Macedonians can do, is not recognise it, and build up their military, i.e., prepare for a military confrontation with the Albanians, because that State is going to have to clean them out, before its stong enough to stand up to the E.U, Greece, and whoever else wants them gone.

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    • Pelister
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2742

      #32
      Well, hasn't Macedonia's recognition of Kosovo thrown a spanner in the works ?

      What are they thinking ?

      It's like rewarding militant Nationalism. The war in Kosovo came to Macedonia - the border is being disputed BY THE KOSOVARS - they brought the gun to Macedonia - and now Macedonia wants to reward that - is fluffy warm and fuzzy tones of "democracy" and "democratic values" ... ? It's a sad day for the Macedonians.

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      • Venom
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 445

        #33
        So everyone can be a nationalist and it leads to greater this and greater that but if we as Macedonians stick up for ourselves we get fucked on because of who we are trying to please i.e. the Siptari and further to that, NATO.

        Macedonia is in bed with the wrong fucking crowd.
        S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          #34
          Pretty much sums it up Venom.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Pelister
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2742

            #35
            It's all about Who we are !!

            That's what this struggle is about. It doesn't matter that Macedonians have been self-declaring for centuries - others want the so called glory attached to the name. There is alot of power in a name, and the New Greeks understand this well, as nauseating as it sounds. It's a hard reality Macedonians have to face up to.

            The trouble is that the new Greeks have a head start. They've been the authors of Who we are, for decades, while the Macedonians languished in illiteracy, and illegitimacy. The Greeks have had, up until recently, the priviledges of creating knowleege, competence, circulating it ...etc, about who Macedonians are and who they are not. That's what the Macedonian government should be fighting - what Others are saying about them.

            They should be addressing the fkn aspersions being cast out about who they are and who they not - every chance they get. It's offensive, and its offensive that the Macedonian government isn't doing squat to counter it.

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            • Pelister
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2742

              #36
              Originally posted by Venom View Post
              So everyone can be a nationalist and it leads to greater this and greater that but if we as Macedonians stick up for ourselves we get fucked on because of who we are trying to please i.e. the Siptari and further to that, NATO.

              Macedonia is in bed with the wrong fucking crowd.
              I'll say.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                #37
                Serbia arrests 'ex-KLA fighters'

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                Serbia arrests 'ex-KLA fighters'
                Serbian police escort a suspected ex-KLA fighter in Belgrade, 26 December
                Armed police could be seen escorting the detainees in Belgrade

                Police in south Serbia have arrested 10 suspected former Kosovo Liberation Army fighters for war crimes against non-Albanians, including murder and rape.

                Serbian Interior Minister Ivica Dacic said the suspects had been arrested in the Serbian town of Presevo, near the border with Kosovo.

                The 10 are suspected of being former KLA fighters who killed more than 50 Serbs in Kosovo.

                The alleged crimes date back to after the end of the conflict there in 1999.

                'New Year's visit'

                The Serbian war crimes prosecutor's office said the group had sought to get rid of Serbs and other non-Albanians from Gnjilane (Gjilan in Albanian), 47km (30 miles) south-east of the Kosovan capital, Pristina.

                "From June 1999 until October 1999, they were involved in at least 51 murders and 159 abductions in the town," said Bruno Vekaric, a spokesman for Serbia's war crimes prosecutor, Vladimir Vukcevic.

                He added that some of those arrested had entered Presevo, a region of Serbia with a large ethnic Albanian community, to celebrate the New Year with relatives.

                The Serbian prosecutor's office said the arrests had been made in raids on 17 homes in Presevo after months of preparation because of the "extremely high risk as almost all the suspects were armed".

                Nine suspects were transferred to custody in Belgrade while one remained under investigation in southern Serbia, according to a statement from the office reported by the Associated Press.

                Belgrade still regards Kosovo, which declared formal independence this year nearly a decade after breaking away from Serbia, as its territory.

                Ethnic Albanian militants in Presevo waged an insurgency against Belgrade in 2001 which was ended with the help of Nato and EU diplomacy.

                Riza Halimi, an ethnic Albanian political leader from Presevo, accused Serbian police of using excessive force in making the arrests on Friday.

                "It certainly does not contribute to the stability in the region," the leader told Serbia's Beta news agency.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Risto the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15658

                  #38
                  "It certainly does not contribute to the stability in the region," the leader told Serbia's Beta news agency.
                  Even though the most of the ones arrested were all armed.
                  About time.
                  See how close they were to Macedonia on the map ... these people are running free all over the Balkans. At least the Serbs have done something about it. I can't wait for the international backlash and hypocrisy.
                  Risto the Great
                  MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                  "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                  Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    #39
                    Neither can I, particularly given that Macedonia held similar operations recently against the same ethnic group, I would like to compare the resulting comments. I am rather tired of hearing "police used excessive force", anybody can jump in anytime here and correct me if I am wrong but I am of the impression that when you are making high-profile arrests of armed murderers you don't walk in with roses and chocolates! Generally all law enforcement agencies and organisations work within a rule which is sometimes called a 'force continuum', which, in layman’s terms would be something along the lines of: you raise your voice or show signs of aggression then I can push or parry you away, you clench a fist or push me then I can hit and restrain you, you hit or try to restrain me then I can use a baton to neutralize your attacks, you use a baton-like object or knife then I can use a gun, etc, that is the source from which the definition of 'reasonable' and hence 'excessive' force is drawn. It is the right of the person making the arrest to be one step above the assailant where it concerns the 'use of force', it can only be deemed as 'excessive' if they exceed a step in the force continuum pattern, for example, somebody raised their voice and you pulled out your firearm and shot them dead - That, is excessive.

                    Were there any Albanian death's reported? Are we really to believe that these criminals arrested in both Macedonia and Serbia went willingly without posing a danger to the policemen? Roses and chocolates? I don't think so. If the situation was tense and became more so it would be on account of the criminals being arrested causing a scene or because some sympathisers were making the task more difficult for the policemen.
                    Originally posted by Risto the Great
                    See how close they were to Macedonia on the map ... these people are running free all over the Balkans.
                    From Albania, east to Macedonia, east to Kosovo and the rest of the southern border of Serbia along the adjoining Presevo all the way to Bulgaria, is where they have stretched.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Soldier of Macedon
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 13670

                      #40
                      Islamic Kosovo?



                      On 12 January, Radio-Television Kosova (RTK) reported that Mullah Osman Musliu, chairman of the Islamic Community in Drenas in central Kosovo had been attacked and beaten by nine Wahhabi extremists. These men were arrested, though four were soon released. The other five remain in police custody.....................................

                      The attack on Musliu represented the second time in recent months in which Islamic Community members were attacked by extremists, who take their inspiration, and funding, from the austere Wahhabi sect of Islam, official state religion of Saudi Arabia. This and other Muslim states were leading donors to post-war Kosovo, building hundreds of mosques in the process, though their contributions are said to have dried up considerably due to much of the population’s disinterest in Islamic activities. Following Kosovo’s independence declaration in February of 2008, the reticence of many Muslim states to recognize this status led to widespread speculation that an element of revenge was justly playing out............................................
                      Well, well, the people that came to rescue them now want them to step back another 1,000 years, as if the Albanians of Kosovo aren't backward enough. Go forth then, no time to complain now, go forth and kiss the hand that saved you.
                      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                      • Dimko-piperkata
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1876

                        #41
                        let them do their incest like they want, the chief thing is that those garbage people dont annoy us orthodox people !
                        1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                        2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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                        • Venom
                          Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 445

                          #42
                          We all know these people care not about any sort of religion, rather they care abotu anything that will help them make a quick buck.

                          In Struga I remember sitting with my cousin and two of his friends, both Albanian. They both had a rakija, a bacon roll and talked of thier recent conquests in the woman department. Only after they left did my cousin tell me they were Albanian. Leaving aside the conversation I had with him regarding his association with them, I am sure if the price was right they'd become Catholic tomorrow.
                          S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #43
                            They used religion to take our lands.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                            • Venom
                              Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 445

                              #44
                              They used anything they could to take our lands.
                              S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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                              • Soldier of Macedon
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 13670

                                #45
                                The Albanians were the privileged whores of the Ottoman Empire, much of what they have in their history they owe to their Islamic masters.
                                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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