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Old 06-22-2011, 08:53 AM   #511
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But if the EU flag belongs to the Eurocrats, if I want it to be mine, I guess I'll just have do my best to become an Eurocrat.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:14 AM   #512
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The EU will not fall apart. It is the biggest political union and economy in the world - it is not going to simply disintegrate.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:24 PM   #513
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I hope it does fall apart, and I have no idea why our Greek govt are following their advice.
He should be blackmailing these EU blowhards and threaten to blow this whole project up in smoke if the banks dont back off. The Eurocrats should be ashamed of themselves in how they are catering to these Credit agencies. Instead of following a different model, their greed makes them no better than Wall Street. It really is regrettable and a real shame. The EU could of been a lot more than what it has become.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:31 PM   #514
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The eu is not what it seems to be that it is crumbling at the seams as each country will cause a domino effect.
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:41 PM   #515
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:03 PM   #516
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The EU will not fall apart.
They said the same thing about the Soviet Union.
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:41 AM   #517
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the eu is starting to fall apart allready.Just wait for the dominoe effect .We'll see how many countries greece drags with it as many have borrowed upto 30 to 40 %of their gdp.examples include bulgaria,romania etc.
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May all these EU 'lapachi' suffer, worse than what they have made us Macedonians suffer.
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Old 06-23-2011, 02:20 AM   #519
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Pelister what you have posted is hard to believe are you sure the information you presented can be verified as fact as EU secret Policy making
Why is it hard to believe? It comes from one of the authors of the E.U report, who was told she (along with four of her colleaques) had to delete the term 'Macedonia'. The source is genuine. Our greatest enemy right now apart from the E.U are organisations like UMD which paint the E.U as an honest, "benchmark" institution that we have to "aspire to". This is a dishonest picture. Macedonians have to get the idea out of their minds that the E.U is better than we are, and that it holds the key to "riches" - that is all propaganda. The assumption that we are "negotiating" to get into the E.U - is very deceptive and very dangerous for us, because the European Council set the policy to erase us in 1994 and it has been implementing it ever since. How did this issue "jump" from the question of our admission into the U.N - to a our admission into the E.U and NATO? Have you ever read a single article or heard anyone at UMD over the last five years tell you that there was never any need to "negotiate" our admission into the U.N? That our admission was guaranteed from the very beginning? No. We were never actually blocked. Why have politicians one, ignored it, and two, propelled what should have been an "in house" issue at the U.N into something much bigger and much more dangerous? Why is our national identity, now in the hands of a few individual politicians, and out of the U.N? Ever heard UMD complain about this fact? No - they welcomed it! By focusing all of our attention on the E.U institution (artificially praising it, misleadingly talking it up) and not the original problem of our admission to the U.N, UMD and Gruevski and others are quite intentionally giving good Macedonians a reason to continue the negotiations. Its a very deceptive piece of propaganda, but it has been working so far. The fact is we could be admitted fully to the U.N within a matter of many months - but neither Gruevski or UMD will say it, or do anything about it, because the "negotiations" have been their political lifeline up to now. UMD know that the ONLY way we could be admitted to the E.U is to change our name! They have known this all along. So why do UMD continue to praise the E.U?

Why deceive Macedonians, and manipulate them to turn their focus away from our admission to the U.N? The simple answer to that question is that our admission to the U.N doesn't require "negotiations". That is why they are so desperately trying to "talk up" and praise the E.U.

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Old 06-23-2011, 03:50 AM   #520
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We should be smarter than the eu & even the stupid greeks & stand up to them & refuse to cooperate thats real balls.
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